@bawel

So polygamy and shagging boys gets the OK nod of "going back to their traditional value". There's some twisted dudes out there . . .bloody creepy, and kinky.

Bowel

The Islamic attitude to sex is the single most significant reason that Muslims use porn & other sexual deviance

There are 3 major things at play

1 women are often seen as he servants of their man. This promotes sexual abuse lots of studies by Islamic groups support that. Many of our politicians & religious leaders are party to such excess (child brides etc)

2 when sex is taboo it is simply putting a label on it saying 'try me'

3 Our kids especially have little access to sex ed. Their bodies are developing & they are getting sexual feelings. Rather than helping them, Islam says its dirty & evil the result is they go and look at porn or get married off as a child. The Minister of Education thinks sex ed is not his concern..wow

When I was younger it was postcards, then magazines, vcd's - now its dvds and the internet BTW - .

On gay 'stats' I dont care if Muslims are gay. But rather than accept it many Muslims just lash out without any understanding at all (you for example)

Hi justapasserby, you wrote:

"hey nobody, some pigs eat their own [edit], some female spiders eat their males after sex. so what was your argument, again?"

Like pigs eating their own excrement and female spiders eating their males after sex, homosexual behavior is in the nature of animals. So there is no change in nature, it's part of it. Based on your comment, you seem to agree, but you don't seem to realize it. Bawel claimed it would change nature, which it doesn't.

Do you understand it now, or do you need pictures?

@DrDez, .. that Islamic nations top the porn charts? That’s embarrassing certainly .. I hope someday they will get bored of all those filthy things … and then they will start thinking why those “civilized” people are able to produce such things and going back to their traditional value …

When the west society asked the muslim immigrant to assimilate, the question is what value the immigrant should assimilate to ? The essence of relativism is no self confidence ..

Dr Dez, they shag boys because boys are not technically men. Sex with men is prohibited. A man has a beard (or shaves). A beardless boy is a non-man - therefore according to their logic - available or sex.

Of course its a ruse to legitamize (?) their homosexual tendencies There is a fair amount of adult homo-eroticism in the arab world anyway. Much of it is on a par with South American concepts of 'machismo' - proving yourself to be a dominant male. A friend recently in Syria was invited to enjoy the favours of a married arab man, - he declined, even though he is gay, because he was aware that then the Syrian would boast about it to his other 'straight' married friends that he had humiliated a westerner. The boy thing is also and more disturbing - because, most importantly it is abusive - and - secondly, intellectually dishonest.

You wish they would grow up, wouldn't you?

But they are not allowed to.