Indonesian Government Witnesses Say Tobacco Not Addictive
Camelia Pasandaran | January 05, 2011
In a hearing, the government contradicted its own law by siding with the country’s powerful cigarette industry. One of the witnesses said it was preposterous to call tobacco addictive. (JG Photo/Safir Makki) Related articles
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415314@RedWine - one of the bulwarks of the Constitution regarding freedom of belief and worships is here (in English). You may know it all off by heart anyway, but just in case, by way of a reminder, the Indonesian Constitution has a paragraph (kindly provided by another poster):
Here we go:
Article 28E
(1) Every person shall be free to choose and to practice the religion of his/her choice, to choose one’s education, to choose one’s employment, to choose one’s citizenship, and to choose one’s place of residence within the state territory, to leave it and to subsequently return to it.
(2) Every person shall have the right to the freedom to believe his/her faith (kepercayaan), and to express his/her views and thoughts, in accordance with his/her conscience.
(3) Every person shall have the right to the freedom to associate, to assemble and to express opinions.
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But apparently elsewhere, and I don't have the text, this freedom is only yours if you belong to one of the 5 pre-designated belief-systems.
This gives the lie to the whole edifice of liberty, freedom or democracy. Quite why many faiths were excluded, I'm not sure, but my guess it was to appease groups opposed to religious freedom.
Over the last decade or so, defence of citizens' birthrights, freedoms, etc have been at the whim of whoever has the means to intimidate minorities.
We are seeing that again now, and the crippled, toothless Constitution is the only thing standing between the current situation and religious anarchy and civil war.
No-one in their right mind will ever contest the massive infringements of religious liberty in Court. There will be such an outcry from the MUI, FPI and vigilante groups.
Also judges would need to be impartial in a way that I doubt they ever would be allowed to be. What might happen, is a referendum is called, and even if most people voted to maintain the Constitution, enough damage would be done, and the pro-Islamic fruitcases would be so strengthened, that they would try again and again till they got their way. There is no real protection in law for any minority here. It's far too late for that, and the writing is on the wall.
Just in case you quote legality to me - ask yourself - if Christians are legally protected, how come they are under attack, and the government and police will not protect them?
There are agendas at work, RedWine, powerful, covert forces protect the evil-doers, tell the police, with their newly acquired FPI-friendly chief to be hands-off and let the vigilantes terrorise whom they like.
No formal intentions needed, here.
Redwine
I understand the constitution (mostly) I also gives freedom of religious practice.... But now back to reality please - can you show me a case history which has challenged any of these Islamic laws? I say again there is no challenge by politicians ergo they support a move towards Islamic State
Sorry for the out-of-topic, but just a short clarification.
@Dez: the 1945 Constitution is the basic foundation law of this Country, hence I can say there is no legal formal intention to be an Islamic state when this Country/State was founded. In reality, these by-laws and national laws can be challenged through a legal case filing in the Constitutional Court. Thanks!
"...smoking does not cause lung cancer and can actually be healthy."
Who the heck did they call to the witness stand anyway?? Oh, how my country never failed to amaze me...
Redwine
You say there is no formal intention. Well I have to suggest you look at the reality. The increasing numbers of Sharia based by laws (and national laws) explicitly declare that there is Sharia by stealth - This remains unchallenged and indeed supported by many govt ministers. Ergo the unwritten policy is a move towards an Islmic State. I would like to think I was being paranoid but hey what do I know..
Jakarta. In a bizarre twist to the ongoing legal debate over tobacco’s addictive nature, the government contradicted its own law by siding with the country’s powerful cigarette industry.
One of the witnesses, Mualimin Abdi, the director of litigation at the Justice and Human Rights Ministry, said it was preposterous to call tobacco addictive.
“It’s nonsense to say that it’s difficult to quit smoking,” he told the Constitutional Court.
“It didn’t take me weeks to stop smoking. I just stopped. It only takes strong willpower.”
After Wednesday’s hearing in a judicial review called for by Bambang Sukarno, a legislator from the tobacco-growing hub of Temanggung in Central Java, Mualimin expounded further on the merits of tobacco.
“Tobacco is a halal product [accepted under Islam], therefore cigarettes are halal too,” he said.
“People should also not close their eyes to the fact that we receive Rp 60 trillion [$6.66 billion] in tobacco excise every year.”
The debate centers on an article in the 2009 Health Law that lists tobacco as an addictive substance.
Hearings in the review so far have produced some jaw-dropping testimonies from witnesses for the applicant, including theories that smoking does not cause lung cancer and can actually be healthy.
No less mind-boggling was Wednesday’s testimony by witnesses for the state, ostensibly meant to defend the law.
Another state witness, Iswanto, a tobacco farmer from Temanggung, testified that the industry was important to the people of his community.
The other witnesses for the state were lifelong heavy smokers who testified about the toll the habit had taken on their health.
None of the state witnesses was a tobacco industry representative or health expert.
The Constitutional Court invited its own witnesses, three tobacco industry executives, to testify on Wednesday.
Justice Harjono justified the move by arguing they were industry stakeholders who would be affected by the outcome of the judicial review.
The executive from Djarum, the country’s second-biggest cigarette producer, said any move to further regulate the industry would have a negative impact on the tens of thousands of people employed in the sector.
“In 2010, we had 73,896 employees and had a turnover of Rp 21.8 trillion, of which 56 percent went to the government,” said Subronto, an industrial relations executive for Djarum.
“Our workers are now being threatened with discriminatory laws.”
Yos Adiguna Ginting, director of external relations for Sampoerna, the country’s third-biggest cigarette producer, skirted the question of whether labeling tobacco an addictive substance would hurt the company.
“We don’t have any tobacco farms ourselves so we don’t have the capacity to answer that question,” Yos said.
“Sampoerna is open to the idea that smoking may be addictive, but we demand a new law on tobacco product control, one that is comprehensive and pays attention to all stakeholders, including the government, workers and producers.”
Speaking after the hearing, Tulus Abadi, from the Indonesian Consumer Protection Foundation (YLKI), criticized the court for inviting the executives to testify, arguing that their take on the judicial review was irrelevant.
“We question the relevance of the cigarette industry in this discussion,” he said.
“Addiction is a medical phenomenon, not an economic one. The cigarette industry shouldn’t be considered a stakeholder in the Health Law.”
Another witness who testified on Wednesday was Hakim Sorimuda Pohan, a former House of Representatives member who helped draft the original 2009 Health Law.
He said lawmakers’ intention in labeling tobacco as addictive was to stem the number of children who take up smoking.
“Health economists have calculated the loss caused by smoking is five times what the state gets in tobacco excise,” he said.
“The generations that we lose cannot be justified by the money that we receive.”
He added tobacco production had increased sevenfold between 1970 and 2009, while the country’s total tobacco-growing area had only increased by one-seventh during the same period.
Critics have long lambasted the government for turning a blind eye to the dangers of tobacco in favor of the hefty revenue raised from the industry.
Indonesia is the only country in the Asia-Pacific region that has not ratified the World Health Organization’s Framework Convention on Tobacco Control.
The FCTC requires its members to ban all tobacco advertising, including sponsorship and promotion by the tobacco industry.
The government’s stance on the issue can also be seen in the highest institution in the land: the State Palace.
Under to a 2010 gubernatorial decree, smoking is forbidden in all buildings in Jakarta. Yet smoking remains allowed in the palace’s media room, which is air-conditioned, no less.
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