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Israeli Descendants Plan Celebration in Jakarta
Markus Junianto SIhaloho | May 12, 2011

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Windchills
6:21pm May 13, 2011

hary's random thoughts:

"2. Ishmael, son of Haggai had a Jewish father. The Al Quran, in particular Surah 5 makes for an interesting reading for any Muslim. It lists most of the Jewish prophets with the Prophet (saw) accepting them, not rejecting them."

quick thoughts on this:

Isn't the term Jew/Jewish derived from Judah son of Israel(Jacob) son of Isaac son of Abraham? If so, it is only after his great-grandson, Judah, "Jewish" is known and used. But if calling Abraham as Jewish is in honor of him being Judah's great-grandfather then maybe we can call Ishmael and his descendants(the Arabs) including Muhammad as Jewish. No?


BrahmaPutra
5:59pm May 13, 2011

ariely i am sure you are forgetting something what was it ....oh yeah the total imprisonment of the Palestinians on the west bank ?


Ronen
2:32pm May 13, 2011

Answer to londoedan:

They are US Jews who immigrate to Israel, and decide to leave in the Apartheid style Israeli military regime of the West Bank. They are ultra-orthodox Jews who have nothing in their agenda except of apocalyptic form of Judaism. Otherwise, they would not leave the good life in the USA.

Since the establishment of Zionism, Israel managed to attract only Jews who suffered from antisemitism or financial catastrophe in their native countries, or have apocalyptic view of Judaism. Most of the secular Jews of the Western World never even think of immigrate to Israel. Many of them have no problem with assimilation as well.


Ronen
2:19pm May 13, 2011

Answer to londoedan:

They are US Jews who immigrate to Israel, and decide to leave in the Apartheid style Israeli military regime of the West Bank. They are ultra-orthodox Jews who have nothing in their agenda except of apocalyptic form of Judaism. Otherwise, they would not leave the good life in the USA.

Since the establishment of Zionism, Israel managed to attract only Jews who suffered from antisemitism or financial catastrophe in their native countries, or have apocalyptic view of Judaism. Most of the secular Jews of the Western World never even think of immigrate to Israel. Many of them have no problem with assimilation as well.


Ronen
2:07pm May 13, 2011

Religion, Nationality and Ethnicity are tools invented/cultivated by demonic alpha-males to control human herds and territories...

Human alpha-males are motivated by the same desire of other Apes' alpha-males, but they are using more sophisticated means.

I wonder when people all over the world will be able to respect human rights, as written in UN's universal declaration of human rights, which was signed cynically by all UN members.


A group of Indonesian citizens of Israeli descent announced on Thursday that it was planning to hold a ceremony in Jakarta to commemorate Israel’s day of independence.

Spokesman for the group, Ungguh Dahana, said in a statement sent to the Jakarta Globe that the celebration was aimed at recognizing and respecting the sovereignty of Israel as a Jewish State.

But he stressed that they were still Indonesian citizens who loved the proclamation of the Indonesian Republic and the sovereignty of the Indonesian Republic.

The celebration will be held this Saturday, Unggun said, and will commence  by hoisting the Indonesian flag, singing Indonesian’s national anthem and reading the national proclamation text and the Pancasila.

“Then we will hoist the Israel flag, then sing the national anthem Hatikvah, and read the declaration of Israel’s independence. We will then pray for the peace of the world and improvement sto the security situation in Indonesia,” Unggun said.

He said that many Israeli descendants living in Indonesia really hoped the government would be open to increased diplomatic relations with Israel government.

“We hope may God bless Israel and Indonesia,” he said.

For security reasons, Ungguh denied to reveal the location and the exact time of the planned celebration.