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Dessy Sagita

Christians attending Katedral Mesias in Jakarta. (Reuters Photo)

Christians attending Katedral Mesias in Jakarta. (Reuters Photo)

Muslim Leader Laments Ignorance of Those Who Are Intolerant of Christians

The head of Indonesia’s largest Muslim organization admitted on Friday that a report stating that Christians were the most frequent victims of religious freedom violations here was true.

Said Agil Siradj, who heads the Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), said that sometimes a minority of Muslims are intolerant towards other religions, particularly Christianity. Said said such intolerance by extremists was based on limited knowledge about Islam.

“They [the extremists] don’t have enough understanding about what Islam is all about,” Said said in response to a report issued on Thursday by the Wahid Institute, a non-governmental organization focused on promoting pluralism. The report said that of 35 cases of religious freedom violations lodged with police in 2009, 28 were against Christians.

Said added that Christians should help maintain religious tolerance by being more sensitive towards Muslims. “It is fine if the Christians want to build a church. It would, however, be best and wise if they discussed it first with the people living in the neighborhood, so there will be no misunderstanding,” he said.

The Wahid Institute is the brainchild of late former President Abdurrahman “Gus Dur” Wahid, who was a leader of the NU and the grandson of its founder, Hasyim Asy’ari.

“The report is true. Even though legally Christianity is a religion recognized and protected by the state, still so many violations and even attacks occur,” Rev. Gomar Gultom, executive secretary of the Indonesian Communion of Churches (PGI), said.

Gomar said the violations were sometimes quite obvious as when some groups oppose the building of churches, or even try to prevent Christians from conducting religious rituals in accordance with their beliefs.

“A church in Sibuhuan, South Tapanuli [in North Sumatra] was burnt down this afternoon,” Gomar said on Friday, adding that there had been incessant complaints about the existence of the church for a month.

Even though Christianity is “legal” in Indonesia, there were still many who treated believers of “traditional religions or sects” better than they would treat Christians, he said.

“People who believe in Kejawen in Java, or Sunda Karawitan, are treated better than Christians, even though legally they are not acknowledged by the state,” Gomar said.

“The government has no excuse for letting such tragedies happen,” he said.

Father Dani Sanusi from the Indonesian Bishops Conference said that church burning and attacks against Christians have resulted in deep trauma for many Indonesian Christians.

“A lot of Christians are deeply traumatized and are reluctant to attend Christmas mass, or any other religious ceremony because they are afraid for their safety,” he said.



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peroblanco

6:02 PM February 15, 2010

How I wish Indonesia became a communist country in the 60s so we can do without this BS. *sarcasm

Valkyrie

8:15 AM January 25, 2010

Who's afraid of TRUTH? Liars and debauchers? Some lie because they do not posess enough strength in their beliefs. A comfort zone they often seek, through false piety.

When a "belief" allows any Tom, Dick or Harry to be free in expressing their theology, it becomes useless. The line of faith will eventually criss cross each other and the faithfull caught in a network of false doctrines.

Truth will sustain the individual and truth will eventually be victorious.

Roland

5:26 PM January 24, 2010

Padt, very true what you commented on!

And Marmz, you are right, why is the word LEGAL in mentioned sentence in quotes?

Marmz

9:54 PM January 23, 2010

"Even though Christianity is “legal” in Indonesia, there were still many who treated believers of “traditional religions or sects” better than they would treat Christians, he said."

It is not only LEGAL but protected by Panca Sila. What's with the "quotes"?

Jeanne Hachette

7:31 PM January 23, 2010

As usual, nato. Does this country wants to be an example for the world or become like Malaysia where religious tensions are growing? The government is bowing in front of the religious fanatics for political reasons.

Roland

9:55 AM January 23, 2010

So that's how it works: An actual report says that of 35 cases of religious freedom violations lodged with police in 2009, 28 were against Christians...HOWEVER....such intolerance was based on limited knowledge about Islam...AND...Christians should help maintain religious tolerance by being more sensitive towards Muslims.

Well, one way to turn it! Well done twisting!

Valkyrie

7:59 AM January 23, 2010

"res ipsa loquitor" - a legal parlance...."the facts speaks for themselves."

I picked this up from a popular site in Malaysia:

"That is because it is tacitly supported or even encouraged by government policies and actions or at the very least, quietly acquiesced by the powers that be. It is further muddled by the equation of a particular religion to a particular race. Thus we have a situation of interchanging nationalistic-pseudo-religiosity stance whenever certain issues are raised." (The writer is a Muslim.)

The word "Amen" ("Amin") is of Hebrew origin, and is commonly used by Muslims at the end of their supplications. What would happen if Christians begin to claim that the word "Amen" belongs to Christians and should not be used by other faiths?

I've often wondered why our Police always fail to pursue the thread from detained perpetrators of religious crimes. Shouldn't the Police at least make an effort to find out truly, why these people are committing the offences and who are behind the actions. Find their "leader/s" and use the full powers of the rule of law on them.

Just treating the symptoms will not prevent recurrences. The "cause" has to be eradicated.

Should justice not prevail???

Kiai Carita

7:57 AM January 23, 2010

You misquoted : there is no Sunda Karawitan, should be Sunda Wiwitan (original Sundanese religion)

padt

7:03 AM January 23, 2010

While Said Agil Siradji' comments are welcome, the tone of them still gives cause for concern, to me at least. Suggesting that if Christians wish to build a church they should first discuss it with the local Muslim community indicates a mentality that Christians have to go cap in hand to Muslims for their very existence. Local Muslims wish to build a new mosque (there are already two within walking distance of my house) in our neighbourhood. No Muslims have requested a meeting with those of us who are not Muslim to discuss this. Nor should they. But it should apply across the board - nor should Christians need the approval of Muslims to build a church either.

I have many Muslim friends and neighbours and differing religious opinion and practice has, to date, not been a problem. However, recently I experienced something that I found remarkable. A Muslim friend, out of curiosity, approached me and asked me to explain briefly what Christians believe. For a few minutes I outlined simply the basic tenants of Christianity. My Muslim friend listened intently, then, looking around and over his shoulder,as if to see if anyone was listening in, he turned to me and said, "You do realise that for me, as a Muslim, this is a very dangerous conversation." I have never heard anyone say anything like that before in my life. How can it be that two sane adults in a free democracy cannot not discuss a religious, intellectual topic, without fear? What did my friend have to fear?

And this is my point: I suggest that it is not anything about Christianity itself that my friend found dangerous to discuss. Rather that Islam has not prepared him to objectively look at a theological question with rational thought and an inquiring mind. It would appear to me that in Islam there is a mentality adopted by many that says - somethings are not up for discussion.

This way of thinking is totally foreign to me. And I respectfully suggest it is out of place in the modern world.