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Radicals Teaming Up, Experts Warn
Nivell Rayda | March 02, 2011

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maspanji
3:18am Mar 6, 2011

How long Sidney Jones been living in Indonesia ? did the so called islamist radicals gain any significant grounds in Indonesia ? they never stood a chance to further their agenda and imposing sharia law against the republic philosphy of Pancasila and the bulwark of its survival the TNI and National Polce.


devine
9:16pm Mar 3, 2011

DrDez. Where does the buck stop? If we are a little lucky at next pemilu in 2014.

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It is simple... these Ministers and other politicians choose the EASY way to power or to hold on to power: if you put religion FIRST you dont have to perform on "real" duties... It is all only about power. Nothing else. Not even religion. They all just misuse religion to achieve their own personal goals (power & money among them)


DrDez
9:16pm Mar 3, 2011

The comparison with Nazi Germany is extremely worrisome (Indo in brackets)

First we see the rise of a fascist (radical) group to fill a the void left by the demise of a long established political regime Kaiser (Surharto). Then a religious minority is targeted and blamed for just about everything – Jews (Christians / Ahmadiyah) The next phase is a suppression of their worship, interspersed with sporadic state sponsored minority violence fuelled by hateful politicians and religious leaders. At the same time creating youth movement who are indoctrinated into the hard-line ways – Hitler Youth (Islamic Boarding schools/Religious scholarships in the Middle East)

Invent laws to aid suppression, once the popular vote is with you and you have a substantial bully force move to ban the organisation. After banning and indiscriminately killing a few hundred round them up for their own safety and send them to camps (islands) which is happening in Lombok already and has been proposed as a solution for all Indo Ahmadiyah

Nasty but history does seem to be repeating itself, the comparison is chilling. The conclusion can only be that our ruling class (political/religious/military) has been infiltrated by extremists with only one possible outcome

ps pinched this from the othe paper


KneecZar
7:38pm Mar 3, 2011

@GBU

Ignorant I maybe, there are some details that are undocumented and omitted - perhaps for the obvious reason at this time. Analysis along the same lines and reasoning with the additional details may lead to a different narrative and conclusion.


BrahmaPutra
7:36pm Mar 3, 2011

It is pretty mind boggling to to see all these ministers cozying up to thes thugs, especially the minister of religion who is supposed to represent all religions in Indonesia. It is pretty clear where he stands on the spectrum , not exactly impartial !!


Security analysts warned on Wednesday of growing alliances between hard-line Muslim groups and fundamentalists with close ties to terrorist cells, as the nation is gripped by a string of religiously motivated violence.

Sidney Jones of the International Crisis Group said fundamentalist groups like Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid, led by firebrand cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, and Mujahidin Kompak usually did not see eye to eye with groups like the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI) and the Islamic People’s Forum (FUI), which Jones described as “moralist thugs.”

“There used to be a division and clear lines between the jihadis and the moralist thugs who have a more local agenda,” Jones told a discussion hosted by the Jakarta Foreign Correspondents Club in Jakarta on Wednesday.

The stated goal of JAT, which has links to convicted terrorists, is to implement Shariah law across the archipelago, while Mujahidin Kompak was linked to sectarian violence in Ambon in Maluku and Poso in Central Sulawesi.

However, Jones said there now appeared to be a merging of extremist agendas against Muslim sects deemed deviant, such as the Ahmadiyah, and so-called Christianization.

The senior researcher said an absence of clear leadership among fundamentalists and the success of the morally conservative in pushing for Shariah-inspired bylaws and regulations such as the Anti-Pornography Law and the anti-Ahmadiyah decree had led the two factions to cooperate.

Elements within the JAT are known to have collaborated with milder organizations like the FPI, the FUI, the Indonesian Islamic Propagation Council (DDII) and the Islamic Youth Movement (GPI) in forming the anti-apostasy movements under various names that have been advocating the disbandment of churches.

In September, hard-liners stabbed and assaulted two church leaders in Bekasi after the formation of the Bekasi Anti-Apostasy Forum, an umbrella group for various radical organizations.

The FUI is also showing support for Bashir, now on trial at the South Jakarta District Court for supporting an alleged terrorist training camp in Aceh last year.

“The [fundamentalists] are using less militant groups as a source of potential recruits,” terrorism analyst Noor Huda Ismail told the discussion. “The FPI and FUI are using JAT’s vast international connections for funding.”

The issues of Ahmadiyah and Christianization, Ismail said, are being politicized to bring the two factions together.

“These groups would not normally form a coalition because of the huge ideological and tactical differences between them, but these issues are glue that binds them together,” he said.

Bonar Tigor Naipospos, from the Setara Institute for Peace and Democracy, a group advocating religious tolerance, said fundamentalists may have a more sinister plan in forming coalitions with the morally conservative.

Fundamentalists “are looking to create another war zone in the hopes that more people will be drawn toward jihad,” he said.