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Secular Indonesia Outraged over Aceh Mob Justice
April 09, 2010

A government prosecutor hands over a whip to the executioner during a public caning in Aceh Besar in January this year. There is growing outrage after a man and woman caught committing adultery on were beaten and possibly caned under Islamic law by a mob on Wednesday. (AFP Photo/Chaideer Mahyuddin) A government prosecutor hands over a whip to the executioner during a public caning in Aceh Besar in January this year. There is growing outrage after a man and woman caught committing adultery on were beaten and possibly caned under Islamic law by a mob on Wednesday. (AFP Photo/Chaideer Mahyuddin)
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Valkyrie
5:12pm Apr 12, 2010

Agoz is really doing a good job at making you guys "mad." Personally,I would not treat this buffoon seriously. He's a fake!


marko1
1:30pm Apr 12, 2010

People always say stop bringing your cultures to Indonesia ...i think thats a double standard otherwise there would be no Islam here or Christians...

We all know sharia law is outdated...once people have education they can clearly see that.

Allah has even said that you must follow the rule of law....learn your koran!

Remeber how the sharia police Raped the girl in jail ..Is that why ugly men want Sharia law so they can rape a girl and not be charge? I have never seen a good looking muslim man following sharia law ..i think we just found the reason its for ugly men to have sex too! Dont forget in Bogor you can go there have sex if you aquire a temp marrige licicen then all is ok? what a loophole just to make life nice for the man under religion...

There is no place in a democracy or a democratic country for sharia laws? Anybody wanting to practice sharia law is most welcome to move and to live in countries that are already ruled by sharia laws.


Roland
11:29am Apr 12, 2010

Agoz - while I respect your courage in regards of standing with your political / religious views in the wide open I also have to mention that I am EXTREMELY happy that there are just a very few who are sharing the same mindset and opinions with you!

As you are promoting Sharia law, the abolition of a minimal age for girls to become married and of course a caliphate so strongly I want to share a story with you about an incident which happened very recently in Yemen. A 13 year young Islamic girl, just newly wed with a 27 years old man died, when the husband wanted to consume her from severe vaginal and rectal bleeding while she was bound on the bed. Yemen has no minimal age for girls as Islamic scholars and clerics there are refusing the idea of such. What would you do and say if this girl would have been your only child? Because, whenever your "glorious world" would come true this, as many other crimes against humanity might then just happen on a daily base, endorsed by clerics...


padt
10:29am Apr 12, 2010

agoz, it is because of people like you and reasoning like yours that I will never convert to Islam. God is merciful. And mercy has a human heart and pity a human face. Your 'god' and his demands are so high and mighty and so far removed from human experience that he transcends human dignity and reason. That is not God as far as I am concerned. Your views express a warped ideology intent on controlling people through fear and intolerance and ignorance. You can tell the validity of a religion by what it teaches us about how to treat human beings.

I belong to a religion that when a woman was caught in the act of adultery and the people paraded her in public and wanted to stone her to death because 'the Law' said so. Jesus confronted them - just as he confronts me and you, and said," OK, go ahead and throw stones at her. But let the person standing here who has never sinned be the first one to throw a stone at her." And one by one, those hypocrites walked away. Then Jesus turned to the woman and said, "Does no one condemn you? Neither do I. Go and sin no more."

He's one of your prophets too. And his words apply to you too, and that mob up in Acheh.

So tell us the, agoz. You want this kind of action to be tolerated and indeed enforced across Indonesia in the name of 'divine law'. Tell us, agoz. Are you without sin? Are you in a position to throw the first stone? Answer me.


marko1
8:16am Apr 11, 2010

You will have so called Extreme Muslims defend this but its them in fact who are not true Muslims...in gods house there is no human that cant take gods law into their own hands and inflict their own agenda on others....What about double standard? naked in streets in which their is a porn law...outrages...the village brought a worse form of shame to it than the sex itself...


Indonesia on Friday promised a full investigation into the public humiliation, mob beating and possible caning under Islamic law of two people suspected of having an adulterous tryst.

The offences allegedly took place Wednesday after a 36-year-old teacher and a 28-year-old housewife were accused of having extramarital sex in Aceh province, where religious police enforce Shariah or Islamic regulations.

They were dragged from the woman’s home by an angry mob, paraded naked through their village, tied to a post and beaten almost to death, and now face nine lashes each in public, police said.

It is the latest incident to expose the conflict between local Shariah provisions and rights enshrined in the secular constitution of the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country.

“This is a barbarous crime and obviously against our rule of law,” an official at the justice and human rights ministry said.

“We will order police to launch an immediate probe and to take firm and concrete action against the perpetrators.”

Nearly 90 percent of Indonesia’s 234 million people are Muslims, but the vast majority practise a moderate form of the religion.

National human rights commission chairman Ifdhal Kasim urged President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono to clarify that rights guaranteed under the constitution take supremacy over local regulations, including religious ones.

“This can be a bad precedent for other regions which have similar tendencies and which try to put religious values above the country’s constitution,” he told AFP.

“The directive should mention that Indonesia is a secular country and everything should be based on the constitution.”

Deeply Islamic Aceh adopted partial Shariah law in 2001 as part of an autonomy package aimed at quelling separatist sentiment.’

Last year the outgoing provincial government passed the Qanun Jinayat, a bill allowing adulterers and other religious offenders to be put to death by stoning.

It has not been signed into law by Governor Irwandi Yusuf and officials in Jakarta have asked for it to be withdrawn.

Agence France-Presse