Problems Will Disappear if Ahmadiyah Disappear, Says West Java Governor

This picture taken on April 9, 2013 shows cleric of the Ahmadiyah Islamic sect, Rahmat Rahmadijaya, speaking through a door during an AFP interview at Al Misbah mosque in Bekasi.  A group of minority Ahmadiyah Muslims in Indonesia have been holed up in a mosque since authorities shuttered it earlier this month, in a stand-off that starkly illustrates the growing religious intolerance sweeping the country.   (AFP Photo/Adek Berry)

This picture taken on April 9, 2013 shows cleric of the Ahmadiyah Islamic sect, Rahmat Rahmadijaya, speaking through a door during an AFP interview at Al Misbah mosque in Bekasi. A group of minority Ahmadiyah Muslims in Indonesia have been holed up in a mosque since authorities shuttered it earlier this month, in a stand-off that starkly illustrates the growing religious intolerance sweeping the country. (AFP Photo/Adek Berry)

Just days after hard-line Islamic group members tore down the homes of an Ahmadiyah community in his province, West Java Governor Ahmad Heryawan said violence against the beleaguered minority group would stop if the religion disappeared.

“Of course we want religious tolerance to go properly but the Ahmadiyah have committed a violation by spreading a deviant belief. The problem will disappear if the belief disappears,” Ahmad told Indonesian news portal Kompas.com on Tuesday.

Early on Saturday morning, a mob of 400 hard-liners attacked an Ahmadiyah community in Sukamaju village, Singaparna district, leaving dozens of houses in shambles. Some 60 police officers guarding the village were outnumbered and rendered powerless against the assailants.

The Ahmadiyah community has faced years of discrimination in Indonesia, where the sect’s branch of Islam has been named “deviant” by a prominent Islamic organization.

Last month, 30 Ahmadiyah members were sealed in the Al-Misbah mosque when the Bekasi government shuttered the building.

Religious intolerance is on the rise in Indonesia, where minorities find themselves targeted by members of an increasingly vocal hard-line fringe. In few places is intolerance more routine than West Java. In recent months, Christians and Ahmadiyah have found their houses of worship targeted by the government amid pressure from hard-line groups.

While he condemned the violence in Sukamaju, Ahmad said a joint decree signed by three ministers clearly stipulated that believers of “deviant” religions were not permitted to spread their teachings.

“But to bring Ahmadiyah back to Islam we should use a good way, we should not use violence,” he said.

 

  • Good,Bad and Ugly

    That is really good! Don’t people know what they are saying; or is it that, for their own reasons, they actually think that they have the divine right to treat other humans like the KKK used to do to N*******? as subhumans?
    But like I have been hearing from reports – the good Indonesian people also believe this or don’t think it matters to them.
    A civilised society would of course yell loudly, change their representatives, actively hound these royalist racists.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

    • rotes

      But attacks on them and destroying their property and lives IS what is happening

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Hamizul Abdul Hamid

    Bil Hikmah or deal wisely with the problem. Give them good and constructive argument, that is better then ruin their mosque…i think.

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • Dale Nixon

    Bigots like you and your corrupt sausage salesman partner are the problem. Problem will dissapear if you dissapears

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

    • Sad

      yes he does – supported by his leader. Why is it that Indonesians do not see it? Well actually they do, and silence = support
      Quite a bad week for non sunni in Indonesia wouldn’t you say

    • Sad

      yes he does – supported by his leader. Why is it that Indonesians do not see it? Well actually they do, and silence = support
      Quite a bad week for non sunni in Indonesia wouldn’t you say

    • Sad

      yes he does – supported by his leader. Why is it that Indonesians do not see it? Well actually they do, and silence = support
      Quite a bad week for non sunni in Indonesia wouldn’t you say

    • Sad

      yes he does – supported by his leader. Why is it that Indonesians do not see it? Well actually they do, and silence = support
      Quite a bad week for non sunni in Indonesia wouldn’t you say

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • TalkingEid

    Does Ahmad Heryawan have a ‘final solution’?

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

    • MadWorld

      In EUROPE lot of friends taken into account what happening in Sunni countries ( Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the fund provider Saudia Arabia,) call these violence as an islam fascism.

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • devine

    Kind of reminds me of Nazi Germany…
    Beside that, Ahmad Heryawan is obviously NOT aware that our National Anthem was written and composed by an Ahmadiya, W.R. Supratman…

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • Hindin Wahid

    Is Ahmadiyah spreading their belief (if for this reason)? I don’t see this happens. Violence will not occur if the government truly protect its citizens.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/e.djuwidja Evelyn Djuwidja

    Careful, governor – you’re starting to sound genocidal.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Forgetyourself

    The sundanese of west java used to be known for their polite and gentle customs. Now their culture is being destroyed by Islamic fundamentalists. Very sad.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Roland

    That is a very clear reaction from this man, a man who made before his reelection a deal with the FPI to make minorities as the Ahmadiya “disappear” (brings up memories on how the Nazis made gypsies Jews, homosexuals, retards “dissappear”) – it is clearly the Ahmadiyah’s fault because they are spreading their deviant belief.

    All while of course there is ZERO proof that their belief is “deviant” and that they are “spreading” it.

    Sadly though this persecution won’t stop but the opposite – it will increase as the months and years progress. And of course SBY will collect another one of those allegedly “deserved”(????) rewards for promoting religious tolerance.

    BTW – any statements yet from him regarding the latest attack or any other attack or the dire situation of those Shiites in Madura? Anything? Sound of silence only….maybe in his Twitter account? Nothing? Anything? A la “…let’s see the positive and not only the negative…yadda, yadda, yadda….”.

  • Catweazle

    The West Java Governor – An early front runner for the next ‘Appeal of Conscience Foundation’ interfaith, religious freedom and tolerance award?

  • Catweazle

    The West Java Governor – An early front runner for the next ‘Appeal of Conscience Foundation’ interfaith, religious freedom and tolerance award?

  • Catweazle

    The West Java Governor – An early front runner for the next ‘Appeal of Conscience Foundation’ interfaith, religious freedom and tolerance award?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587646428 Martheen Cahya Paulo

    “We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew” – An emo-looking painter turned party leader in mid 20th century before he rage quit because Russkie pawned his army.
    “expel the infidels from the Arabian Peninsula” – A bearded dude (edited) in a walled house somewhere in Pakistan before he got a headshot from ‘murica.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • udangdibalikbatu

    he’s a few comments away from suggesting death camps it sounds.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • http://twitter.com/lloegyryo Ryo Ishikawa

    Wrong! Wrong!
    Problems will disappear when idiocy disappears. And idiocy won’t disappear as long as humans don’t disappear. The conclusion is quite clear in this aspect.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

    • devine

      Good news; it is said that ONLY 1-2 % of Indonesians are Muslim radicals. But the BAD news is that that amounts to some 2,500,000 to 5,000,000 M I L L I O N people…

      • Valkyrie1604

        But more than 75% of them are uneducated and within the poverty belt.

        • MadWorld

          Improvement in economy & education is the only way to reduce radicalism. If this is the theory than Indonesia have a looooong way to go.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • MadWorld

    Yep problem solved if Ahmadiyah disappear, OR, What about if the Problem Maker (to name a few, MUI,FPI,HTI,FUI,Garis,Kisdi, DDII,GPMI, JAT.) disappear?
    Now I realized how many political scumbags are in Indonesia.
    Too many for a real liberal Pancacila democratic government.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

      • devine

        Correct! And actually they are decreasing in percentage to world population… at least some good news there… does not help us here though…

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

    • Roland

      @Equus – Good Evening. I fear there is a correction in place in regards of “almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion” .

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

      Islam with all its separate branches (which surely also includes Shiites and named Ahmadiya) has worldwide approx. 1.6 Billion followers – with an estimated world population of about 7 Billion this would make around 22.8 percent, less than a quarter.

      Of those 1.6 Billion around 75 – 80 percent are followers of Sunni Islam, which is also the predominant form in Indonesia (1.2 Billion) the rest splits up in Shia and other groups.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Equus

    These people clearly forget that their belief (Islam, on this case) were once part of minorities in 5-6th century Arab and received insults, harassment and other intolerant acts from various religion community. Today, almost half of the human population embrace Islam as their religion. I think these militant Islamic people should know better from their historical experience and shouldn’t harass the Ahmadiyahs.

    I mean what is this, a vendetta because your religion got treated very badly and now you want to treat others badly as a way of revenge or stress relief ? Its like high-school bully that bully their juniors. It breeds a culture of bullying that goes on-and-on. Its definitely stupid.

    You know what ? Getting rid of these ‘heretics’ wont solve the problem. Remember that fellow from Nazareth that was crucified by the Romans ? He became a martyr and Christianity spread like wildfire. Remember those Jews slaughtered in concentration camps during World War II ? They too became martyrs. Go ahead, eradicate them. Make them into martyrs, and maybe in the future, these heretic ants could possibly replace with your belief with theirs and lets see whos laughing now.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

    • devine

      Correct, from what I read in the papers PKS is foremost known for corruption & sex scandals… which is typical, of course… but then there is the problem that PKS followers are obviously not reading or viewing the news…

    • MadWorld

      What about the sharia, haram??? Do this PKS know what those words mean? Or they only recognize HALAL on any issues they perform?

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • Deddy K.

    Ahmad is part of the PKS, a political party known for their religious fundamentalism, associates with known radical violent groups such as FPI, and has publicly time and again talked about changing Indonesia into an Islamic state rather than a democracy.

    If the police investigation doesn’t yield real results (it probably won’t) then it is obvious a coordinated defiance of Indonesia laws by this Governor and his associates.

    Now obviously in light of how PKS has been using corruption money for their sex parties and for their political party expansion, hopefully this will destroy this vile party as their people have shown their hypocrisy and evil intentions.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

    • devine

      You forgot one; current West Java Governor will disappear if law is upheld…

      • kunri

        That’s why I said “You can imagine the rest.” There is no end to this type of *wisdom*.

      • kunri

        That’s why I said “You can imagine the rest.” There is no end to this type of *wisdom*.

      • kunri

        That’s why I said “You can imagine the rest.” There is no end to this type of *wisdom*.

      • kunri

        That’s why I said “You can imagine the rest.” There is no end to this type of *wisdom*.

    • MadWorld

      Yep to not adulterating the Arian race ,A.H. let millions of yews, gypsies disappear. To not adulterating the Sunni faith probably A.H. also intended to do the same, let other religions disappear.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • kunri

    People of West Java should be proud of their Governor’s unmatched wisdom. Here are some more lines for Governor which may be useful for his future.

    Problem of flood will disappear if rain disappears.
    Problem of Tsunami will disappear if sea disappears.

    Problem of Earth-quacks will disappear if Core of Earth dries up.

    Problem of poverty will disappear if poor people disappear.

    You can imagine the rest.

    Just think for a second if other countries show same behaviour & attitude towards their Muslim minorities.

    Albert Einstein once said “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Probably after he met someone like Governor Ahmad Heryawan.

  • simsin

    If that is the mentality of Muslims, we are in big trouble!, first Ahmadiyah, than Shiite, than christianity, buddhism, etc…. until no other religion except Islam….. God has mercy…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

    • MadWorld

      Does Ahmad has the same moustache?

      • me

        I think he shaved it just after he read this comment..

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Janitor X

    Anyone else notice that Ahmad Heryawan has the same initials as one Adolf Hitler? Just saying…

  • Ronen

    Indonesia performed 3 genocides, so far: 1965/6 against leftists and Chinese, in East Timor, and West Papua. It seems some Indonesian politicians think this impressive record is not enough….

  • http://www.facebook.com/idropdeadgorgeous Fransisko Lojaya

    “Of course we want religious tolerance to go properly but the Ahmadiyah have committed a violation by spreading a deviant belief. The problem will disappear if the belief disappears,” – This whole sentence is just ridiculously wrong in many aspect.

    • http://sheayas.blogspot.com/ Sheany Yasuko Tajima

      It’s an ironic paradox.

  • http://www.socialmediamarketingsystems.net/ Giles Ensor

    One can only imagine the uproar if a politician in the West said something like this. The problem is this loon can get away with this type of comment because the politicians in the West say absolutely nothing for fear of upsetting the people who scream racist when anyone says anything against the ‘religion of peace’.

  • http://www.facebook.com/PakDeYP Yunan Prawoto

    religions are merely cults with political power….not surprising :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/PakDeYP Yunan Prawoto

    religions are merely cults with political power….not surprising :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/PakDeYP Yunan Prawoto

    religions are merely cults with political power….not surprising :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/PakDeYP Yunan Prawoto

    religions are merely cults with political power….not surprising :)

  • Kangkung

    Ahmad Heryawan view is exactly the same with the burmese people. Their view: if muslims disapear from Rohingya there will be no violence in Rohingya.

    He will be an effective spoke person for myanmar government.

  • Kangkung

    Ahmad Heryawan view is exactly the same with the burmese people. Their view: if muslims disapear from Rohingya there will be no violence in Rohingya.

    He will be an effective spoke person for myanmar government.

  • Kangkung

    Ahmad Heryawan view is exactly the same with the burmese people. Their view: if muslims disapear from Rohingya there will be no violence in Rohingya.

    He will be an effective spoke person for myanmar government.

  • Kangkung

    Ahmad Heryawan view is exactly the same with the burmese people. Their view: if muslims disapear from Rohingya there will be no violence in Rohingya.

    He will be an effective spoke person for myanmar government.

  • sheldon

    Problems Will Disappear if West Java Governor Disappears

  • sheldon

    Problems Will Disappear if West Java Governor Disappears

  • sheldon

    Problems Will Disappear if West Java Governor Disappears

  • sheldon

    Problems Will Disappear if West Java Governor Disappears

    • Valkyrie1604

      You beat me to this post. Just like to add a few. Ahmadiyahs are reputed to have members who are wealthy. Many that I know here in Jakarta are in this category.

      Now, I am certain they did not contribute to Hermawan’s recent bid for governorship which he (allegedly) dubiously won. The pair from PDIP have made strong protests but to date I don’t know if they’re successful.

  • Rotes22

    Nice to see your bed buddy silent again 22roles

  • Rotes22

    Nice to see your bed buddy silent again 22roles

  • Rotes22

    Nice to see your bed buddy silent again 22roles

  • Rotes22

    Nice to see your bed buddy silent again 22roles

  • rob225

    indonesia, the most intolerant country in SE Asia, well done.. just keep shouting merdeka on independance day

    • I. Leo

      …do we even still do that? Shouting ‘merdeka’ I mean…
      For appearance, sure. But do we really feel what our ancestors feel when they shout that?

  • qalam

    Islam teach us every one if free and can believe what he or she likes.Very shameful act of this governor.When God create every one free who is he to decide what one should believe.

    • rotes

      I only wish it did

  • qalam

    Islam teach us every one is free

    • Voxclara

      @qalam, if a Muslim decided to leave Islam and convert to Christianity or Hinduism or better still Judaism. What will happen to him?

      • rollypolyisfun

        well 18% of Indonesians think he should be killed Vox, but Qalam clearly is not one of those

        • Voxclara

          If only 18% here in Indo, how many % would it be in countries such as Saudi Arabia or Pakistan where Sharia laws reign supreme?

    • I. Leo

      I am not a follower of Islam but I am sure it does.

      However, does Islam followers in Indonesia believe so? Some do like you, however, this West Java Governor clearly had shown that he does not believe that.

      Lately to the world, what the religion truly is does not matter. What matter is what their follower believe it is.

    • Salahudin Sadono

      don’t lie please, you’re not even a muslim.

      • DrDez

        Correct Salahudin
        islam does not teach everyone is free.. Quite the opposite. People are not free, they are subject to laws created by men 1400 years ago, laws that often are used to promote severe oppression and inequality and even support violence – would you agree?

        BTW – you show a sad and oh so typical muslim reaction – instantly on the offensive
        Lets review what was said
        Q – islam teach us everyone is free …. a harmless statement, infact one promoting Islam as a tolerant and peaceful doctrine and one many muslims

        Your response – don’t lie please, you’re not even a muslim.

        Perhaps he is not, or perhaps he is an Ahmadiyah or Sufi, both sects that do promote peaceful living and thus are targeted violently by the sunni majority.

        Your instant abuse and denial of freedom speaks volumes to muslims and non muslims alike. To me it is no surprise that Islam is shrinking in Indonesia, it is also no surprise that the reaction of many muslims is deflection, abuse and even violence.

        I feel terribly sorry for the good people of Indonesia Salahudin, they are being turned into a violent mob by your godly ways

  • antifreeze

    Logically this man is on firm ground. However his moral ethics belong in hell.

  • Salahudin Sadono

    Most people only read the title and then wrote a comment emotionally, full with anger and hatred. They cannot even read a passage until the end.

    • DrDez

      Salahudin
      Can I ask if you support the forced conversion (that is clearly what it would be) of the Ahmadiyah to potentially end this violence then??
      BTW – I think even with 10x full readings, I personally would feel emotional, full of anger (and sorrow not hatred) about this issue. Why? well because what I see is a man encouraging and supporting illegal and potentially deadly violence against a small but peaceful group of people – encouraging the mob … A mob that seemingly is exempt from prosecution because the target is non sunni

      I look forward to the discussion

      DrDez

    • Wonderer

      It seems that at least some of the commenters made it all the way here. Maybe you can be so kind to detail what pint we have missed that would change our understanding after “only havong read the headline”?

      At this stage my impression is “most people only read the call from some dubious leader without questioning that and switching on their brains before going on a rampaga…” but yeah, I might be wrong and have missed the point in above article…! So please tell us!

    • Fransisko Lojaya

      The title is more than enough to justify all these comments.

    • Mike

      Did it not all stem from anger and hatred in the first place?

  • Joe Joe Random

    Half a millennia ago, the Catholics in France were busy prosecuting the Huguenots (Protestants) for their “deviant belief”. But they’ve left that behind them long ago. This article tells me but one thing, that the people in my country, especially in this province of West Java, despite living in the 21st century is still hundreds of years behind their counterparts in the civilized world. It saddens me to see the backwardness that persist among my people.

    If God had put us on this Earth to test us, if this life really is meant to be a journey, then shouldn’t every man be allowed to discover his own Truth? What meaning is there to a Truth forced upon you? What meaning is there to forcing Truth upon others? Life is a journey of discovery, we will all find different conclusions, different meanings to our existence, or none at all. But it matters not. Because every man is the owner of his own life, thus he should own his journey.

    But why does some people find that it hurts them so much that their neighbor does not share their belief? That they have found a different conclusion to their life of searching? Does it in any way reduce their faith in their own Truth? Does it kill them that their neighbors do not conform, confirm and acknowledge their belief? Then what a pitiful existence these people have led, for their Truth stands on a foundation of twigs of their own making!

    • Muffinman

      History itself is a great teacher. Should we choose to learn from it. We are, after all ; mankind.

  • RAMAR

    Let it be known by this governor of West java and his accomplices that Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at has come to stay in Indonesia and nobody how mighty he may think he is can stop it.Those that wish it to be disappeared , will be annihilated on the surface of earth. Let him go and learn lesson from what befell all those that have persecuted this Jama’at before him, people like Sultan of Kabul in Afghanistan,Ali Bhutto and Zia-Ul Haq of Pakistan and Alexandar Dowie of America just to mention a few. so, if he too and his satanic associates refuse to desist from persecuting the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at, they will meet their doom through the hand of Almighty Allah in no distant future.
    Ahmadiya is a plant planted by Almighty Allah and anybody that intends to destroy it will be humiliated and destroyed, in sha Allah.

  • i suta

    What a stupid comment coming from a governor. It’s like saying “problems will dissappear if Islam dissappears” or “religion dissappears” or when Hitler said “Jews dissapear”… religion will never dissappear, “new modified improved beliefs be it Islam, Christians, Jews or other beliefs” will keep on popping up. The only peaceful solution to live together in this world is to accept other peoples belief and agree to disagree in ones belief. Surah AL Kafirun has mentioned just that…to you your own religion. …etc. Peace

    • Kentangrebus

      if only many people share the same view as you, we will see a better Indonesia. even a better world! People need to learn that being difference doesn’t mean that they are wrong or something. People just hop in the hate-wagon without knowing why this is happening, or what cause this to happen. or came up with a “real” solution instead of “they disappear”.

  • Wonderer

    …or perhaps he even is a Sunni for all you know about him!

    • DrDez

      Perhaps he is – all the better -

  • Nate

    In no particular order they will simply fight each other to the death by continuing from Islam vs. other religions to sect vs. sect (Sunni vs. Shia, etc.), then caliph claimant vs. caliph claimant, maybe secular modernism vs. religious extremism, political ideology vs. political ideology, race vs. race, tribe vs. tribe, family vs. family until only one family remains with a man’s own enemies from then on being his own household.

    The depressing scenario above is the only logical conclusion of such a mentality that foments endless warfare as well as an accurate depiction of Islamic history and that is not even mentioning the problems associated with multi-generational inbreeding.

  • Tatanka

    All intolerance issues will go away if leaders such as the governor and all his cronies simply go away!

  • me

    Aher, your comment surprised me, I never thought you could say something that low. I know there’s a good reason not to vote for you.
    well anyway, I thought you’re better than this, shame on you Governor. Shame on you.

  • Gerry James Podolsky

    Problems will disappear if aher dissapear

  • TGIF

    OMG! Sounds like something Hitler have said about the fate of the Jews in WW II. Who gave them the right to judge others.

  • Mike

    No discussion then.

  • Adi

    Eye for an eye and the world goes blind, tooth for a tooth and we will not be able to chew and talk properly. I hope these Ahmadiyah will soon realize their muslim brothers hates them to the core and wants them dead and will eventually convert to another religion that would accept them with love and open arms. May God have mercy on them…

    • Dezmond Edison Christian

      I hope that the government stands up and protects Indonesians and the Indonesian constitution – irrespective of belief

    • Haroon

      This will not happen. An Ahmadi will not trade his belief. We follow the Sunnah of Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

  • http://sheayas.blogspot.com/ Sheany Yasuko Tajima

    This takes me back to an event in Jakarta last Saturday, where Mr. Taufik Basari spoke about human rights and religious tolerance. It still baffles me, after all this time, how officials can utter such comments considering the position they are in. And it just reminds me that there are still so much we need to do to build this nation for the better.

    • Rule Britannia

      Speech writers

  • Rule Britannia

    Underlines one of the key problems here in Indonesia. Many of the elected officials are not fit to govern.

  • Kentangrebus

    Problems will still exist, wether they disapear or not.. If you want a world where there is no problems at all. Then the after-world is the place for you.. As long as you live in this world, Problems will still exist.